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Sep 22, 2023 6:42 AM
#1
Foreall908
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I don't understand the lack of progress romantically in anime, I really don't. How kissing seems like a taboo, it doesn't have to be excessive like "I Love You" kinda was. Just watching 13 (if your lucky) or more episodes with little to no reward for the viewer is bullshit. I could be more forgiving if every 5th show revolving around a romantic paring actually yielded results but not even close. I don't know how your more likely to see some rapey shit then you are to witness a genuine heartfelt moment. I've grown accustomed to the fact that when I see a man (not even necessarily depicted as a Rotten s.o b) and woman ending up in a secluded area, to prepare for some rapey shit. I wish I was being dramatic, I really do, but it's a disconcerting trend in anime. So why can't we get morr wholesome moments damnit. I'd probably not be so agitated about some silly kiss if their proclivity for sexual assault and ntr wasn't so obvious. End rant. I'm sorry I went off on a tangent but I'm sure some of you have noticed it as well, gd Izumi why couldn't he just of acted like a man ONE TIME in his life and made a move then I wouldn't be writing this diatribe. **sigh**
Sep 22, 2023 7:00 AM
#2
Piromysl
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The entire premise is that their relationship is already past development and you are watching basically finished product.
Yes, something that is essential bread and butter of any romcom is completely skipped here. It's like not putting cheese in pizza.
As such, there is literally nothing happening in those 13 episodes and we're just wondering why they are even together and in the end we didn't even had any logical answer.
It's hard to even call it a romance anime, actually.
Sep 22, 2023 7:06 AM
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iLuvCoffee1
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Really weird seeing someone so agitated over not having a single lip to lip kiss scene lol
"To the boy who once sought freedom, goodbye." 🕊️
Sep 22, 2023 7:56 AM
#4
Chronon
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Foreall908 said:
How kissing seems like a taboo, it doesn't have to be excessive like "I Love You" kinda was.
Kiss has always been part of the "I love you" taboo. Every time a romance anime tries to be realistic they just avoid it or make it as discreet as possible.
𝓢𝓪𝓴𝓾𝓻𝓪
𝓚𝓲𝓷𝓸𝓶𝓸𝓽𝓸
Sep 22, 2023 8:05 AM
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Truck-kunArrives
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Banished from the Hero’s Party I Decided to Live a Quiet Life in the Countryside,
Horimiya,
Chillin in my 30s After Getting Fired from the Demon King’s Army,
I Can’t Understand What My Husband is Saying,
Tonikawa: Over the Moon for You,
My Love Story!,
Taisho Otome Fairy Tale,
Snow White with the Red Hair,
A Galaxy Next Door,
I’m the Villainess, so I’m Taming the Final Boss,
The World is Still Beautiful,
Wise Man’s Grandchild
Honourable Mentions:
Duke of Death and his Maid,
Recovery of an MMO Junkie,
The Saint’s Magic Power is Omnipotent,
Love After World Domination,
Psychic Princess,
Etc.
Sep 22, 2023 8:08 AM
#6
Kidzuna
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So basically it has most of the common romance tropes but the genders are reversed here with the girl being the dominant one
It's not like the anime is very good and a must watch but if you enjoy slice of life moments and character interactions then you may like it
Sep 22, 2023 8:08 AM
#7
iLuvCoffee1
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__potato__ said:
This post was literally my mindset when I watched the show.
Like they don't have to full on sleep together but it would seem more in place for them to be in primary school. Literally if you changed their ages to 7 (and NOTHING about the plot or character's personalities/dialogue) you would have the exact same story 😂.
Like, there's being shy and then there's being childish. There's a difference that the author clearly doesn't understand. I've been threads about this show and people try to justify it and I'm just like "you're not helping the situation here, I'm just even more convinced of my own opinion because the points you make are the reason why I hate it" lol.
Hmm, I can understand where that's coming from.
Although I think people tend to forget that PDA or just the DA isn't really a common thing in Japan or Asia in general compared to the Western world. For example, (correct me if I'm wrongful) reality TV shows focusing on relationships in western countries, have it more physical and sort of "lustful" I'd say? Whereas in Japan, it's basically handholding and cuddling, which is to say it's very "soft" and "tender" and almost "pure", I don't really have any other adjectives to describe it.
"To the boy who once sought freedom, goodbye." 🕊️
Sep 22, 2023 8:11 AM
#8
Truck-kunArrives
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__potato__ said:
This post was literally my mindset when I watched the show.
Like they don't have to full on sleep together but it would seem more in place for them to be in primary school. Literally if you changed their ages to 7 (and NOTHING about the plot or character's personalities/dialogue) you would have the exact same story 😂.
Like, there's being shy and then there's being childish. There's a difference that the author clearly doesn't understand. I've been threads about this show and people try to justify it and I'm just like "you're not helping the situation here, I'm just even more convinced of my own opinion because the points you make are the reason why I hate it" lol.
There are some good rom coms or SoLs where the MC’s are adults. I think you’d enjoy those much more. High school ones, minus a few exceptions, tend to build up to the confession or, if you’re lucky, a kiss.
Sep 22, 2023 8:13 AM
#9
Kidzuna
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@iLuvCoffee1 Most romances are inspired by the Japanese culture like how you mentioned but most anime fans have seen these same tropes a hundred times in many anime so it kind of becomes cliche or too irritating to see it again and again at some point
that's one reason why we find it irritating
Sep 22, 2023 8:13 AM
#10
Sekiro94
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Cant force myself to like a guy, shikimori she was okay, and that girl blue girl i think who lost as rival was probably among the coolest and nicest rival and her voice is amazing, such a calm, mature and cute person. For her il raise rating to 6/10
Sep 22, 2023 9:16 AM
#11
Sumedh_Nimgade
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May 2023
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I was expecting a kiss on lips 😭😭😭
Sep 22, 2023 9:40 AM
#12
lionleo123
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Truck-kunArrives said:
I have some recommendations for you then:
Banished from the Hero’s Party I Decided to Live a Quiet Life in the Countryside,
Horimiya,
Chillin in my 30s After Getting Fired from the Demon King’s Army,
I Can’t Understand What My Husband is Saying,
Tonikawa: Over the Moon for You,
My Love Story!,
Taisho Otome Fairy Tale,
Snow White with the Red Hair,
A Galaxy Next Door,
I’m the Villainess, so I’m Taming the Final Boss,
The World is Still Beautiful,
Wise Man’s Grandchild
Honourable Mentions:
Duke of Death and his Maid,
Recovery of an MMO Junkie,
The Saint’s Magic Power is Omnipotent,
Love After World Domination,
Psychic Princess,
Etc.
great rec man i watched half of these and i can say that their more progress in these shows then in this one
Sep 22, 2023 11:02 AM
#13
Yosakusan
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That's why we stick to just reading hentai. Unironically more realistic than most romance anime.
Sep 22, 2023 11:21 AM
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Reversign
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Truck-kunArrives said:
I have some recommendations for you then:
Banished from the Hero’s Party I Decided to Live a Quiet Life in the Countryside,
Horimiya,
Chillin in my 30s After Getting Fired from the Demon King’s Army,
I Can’t Understand What My Husband is Saying,
Tonikawa: Over the Moon for You,
My Love Story!,
Taisho Otome Fairy Tale,
Snow White with the Red Hair,
A Galaxy Next Door,
I’m the Villainess, so I’m Taming the Final Boss,
The World is Still Beautiful,
Wise Man’s Grandchild
Honourable Mentions:
Duke of Death and his Maid,
Recovery of an MMO Junkie,
The Saint’s Magic Power is Omnipotent,
Love After World Domination,
Psychic Princess,
Etc.
I wouldn't recommend wise man grandchild if all they want is a lip kiss as there was very few if not only 1 the entire anime.
Sep 22, 2023 11:44 AM
#16
WhimsiCuddle
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May 2023
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bro was so pissed up that he wrote allat
Sep 22, 2023 1:53 PM
#17
RudeRedis
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Also, I thought it was fine but only because I watched it through in the background. Thankfully, the Japanese used was easy af.
Sep 22, 2023 7:26 PM
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LanaM776
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I think it’s a little much to be this pressed about a romance anime, but I do agree with you. They’re both 16-17 years old as they’re second year high school students. But, some people irl do have slow moving relationships. I think Izumi is fine as a protagonist and all of my problems with the show fall with Shikimori. As words Gigguk once said, “Shikimori’s not just a cutie, she’s also boring as shit.” SPOILERS: they do eventually kiss in the manga but it wouldn’t have mattered anyway.
LanaM776Sep 22, 2023 7:30 PM
Sep 22, 2023 11:52 PM
#19
Piromysl
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Kidzuna said:
@Piromysl ➡️ I think they pretty much made it clear as to how they started dating like at the end as much as I remember and the anime is just slice of life of the characters and the two mc going on trips and all.
"He kinda nice" is a copout and I don't consider it as an actual answer, because it's almost like the author had no idea themselves and decided to slap in the most generic thing possible. It was kinda expectable, because Izumi as a protagonist has literally no personality, so it's not like any other reason eas possible.
PiromyslSep 23, 2023 2:24 AM
Sep 23, 2023 1:21 AM
#20
Lesjer_kun_
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Foreall908 said:
I just dont get it man. We rarely get to see a couple get together, you could count it on one hand, and usually that's only at the end of the road. But here we get all 13 episodes of cutesy couple shenanigans. But not only have they been together for probably at least 6 months to a year, gone on multiple dates, she had met his parents and had dinner at the house, and THERE IN FUCKING HIGHSCHOOL. They haven't kissed yet?!?!? And he thinks that pitiful ass peck on the cheek was "something crazy"???. Bro. I know the shows had problems for days but comon they could have at least redeemed it with some kind of realism. On God alot of people would have slept together at that point. I had to do some research cause I thought maybe, just maybe, they look old for their age and this took place in middle school. I couldn't give a bigger benefit of the doubt, how naive.
I don't understand the lack of progress romantically in anime, I really don't. How kissing seems like a taboo, it doesn't have to be excessive like "I Love You" kinda was. Just watching 13 (if your lucky) or more episodes with little to no reward for the viewer is bullshit. I could be more forgiving if every 5th show revolving around a romantic paring actually yielded results but not even close. I don't know how your more likely to see some rapey shit then you are to witness a genuine heartfelt moment. I've grown accustomed to the fact that when I see a man (not even necessarily depicted as a Rotten s.o b) and woman ending up in a secluded area, to prepare for some rapey shit. I wish I was being dramatic, I really do, but it's a disconcerting trend in anime. So why can't we get morr wholesome moments damnit. I'd probably not be so agitated about some silly kiss if their proclivity for sexual assault and ntr wasn't so obvious. End rant. I'm sorry I went off on a tangent but I'm sure some of you have noticed it as well, gd Izumi why couldn't he just of acted like a man ONE TIME in his life and made a move then I wouldn't be writing this diatribe. **sigh**
Bro i highly recommend you not to watch "The angel next door spoils me rotten"
Sep 23, 2023 1:29 AM
#21
Lesjer_kun_
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May 2022
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Kidzuna said:
@Piromysl ➡️ I think they pretty much made it clear as to how they started dating like at the end as much as I remember and the anime is just slice of life of the characters and the two mc going on trips and all.
So basically it has most of the common romance tropes but the genders are reversed here with the girl being the dominant one
It's not like the anime is very good and a must watch but if you enjoy slice of life moments and character interactions then you may like it
Nah the author seriously thinks that shikimori will carry the show
I mean she carried the show but releasing this the same season as "my dress up darling" is a mistake 💀
I think the romance is not even that much implemented except for like 5 scenes and shikimori showing his testosterone the whole episode and the male mc(forgot his name) being the unluckiest and the most useless person ever
(English is my second language)
Sep 23, 2023 2:06 AM
#22
Kidzuna
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Lesjer_kun_ said:
Kidzuna said:
@Piromysl ➡️ I think they pretty much made it clear as to how they started dating like at the end as much as I remember and the anime is just slice of life of the characters and the two mc going on trips and all.
So basically it has most of the common romance tropes but the genders are reversed here with the girl being the dominant one
It's not like the anime is very good and a must watch but if you enjoy slice of life moments and character interactions then you may like it
Nah the author seriously thinks that shikimori will carry the show
I mean she carried the show but releasing this the same season as "my dress up darling" is a mistake 💀
I think the romance is not even that much implemented except for like 5 scenes and shikimori showing his testosterone the whole episode and the male mc(forgot his name) being the unluckiest and the most useless person ever
(English is my second language)
Yeah the show was overshadowed by a large scale by dress up darling heck I didn't even know the show aired during the same season and I watched it 1 year later💀
Sep 23, 2023 3:41 AM
#23
Truck-kunArrives
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Reversign said:
Truck-kunArrives said:
I have some recommendations for you then:
Banished from the Hero’s Party I Decided to Live a Quiet Life in the Countryside,
Horimiya,
Chillin in my 30s After Getting Fired from the Demon King’s Army,
I Can’t Understand What My Husband is Saying,
Tonikawa: Over the Moon for You,
My Love Story!,
Taisho Otome Fairy Tale,
Snow White with the Red Hair,
A Galaxy Next Door,
I’m the Villainess, so I’m Taming the Final Boss,
The World is Still Beautiful,
Wise Man’s Grandchild
Honourable Mentions:
Duke of Death and his Maid,
Recovery of an MMO Junkie,
The Saint’s Magic Power is Omnipotent,
Love After World Domination,
Psychic Princess,
Etc.
I wouldn't recommend wise man grandchild if all they want is a lip kiss as there was very few if not only 1 the entire anime.
To be fair, that one I haven’t seen in a while.
I keep anime recommendations list for certain themes and genres. I just remember this was one where the MC and main love interest didn’t dance around with the “do they love me? Do they not?” bs for an entire season or even two.
Wiseman’s Grandchild is actually the one I’ve seen the least recently out of all of them, so my apologies if my list was a bit off.
Sep 23, 2023 7:16 AM
#24
Piromysl
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Reply to Lesjer_kun_
Kidzuna said:
@Piromysl ➡️ I think they pretty much made it clear as to how they started dating like at the end as much as I remember and the anime is just slice of life of the characters and the two mc going on trips and all.
So basically it has most of the common romance tropes but the genders are reversed here with the girl being the dominant one
It's not like the anime is very good and a must watch but if you enjoy slice of life moments and character interactions then you may like it
Nah the author seriously thinks that shikimori will carry the show
I mean she carried the show but releasing this the same season as "my dress up darling" is a mistake 💀
I think the romance is not even that much implemented except for like 5 scenes and shikimori showing his testosterone the whole episode and the male mc(forgot his name) being the unluckiest and the most useless person ever
(English is my second language)
@Lesjer_kun_
It was released actually one season AFTER Dress Up Darling, which is why people somehow drew comparison between the two, while in fact those shows are absolutely nothing alike.
Sep 23, 2023 8:09 AM
#25
Fenyy
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I rated this anime a 5 tbh. I really wasn't a fan of it honestly which is rare for me in terms of any anime let alone romance
Sep 23, 2023 10:54 PM
#26
shaunchris
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Truck-kunArrives said:
I have some recommendations for you then:
Banished from the Hero’s Party I Decided to Live a Quiet Life in the Countryside,
Horimiya,
Chillin in my 30s After Getting Fired from the Demon King’s Army,
I Can’t Understand What My Husband is Saying,
Tonikawa: Over the Moon for You,
My Love Story!,
Taisho Otome Fairy Tale,
Snow White with the Red Hair,
A Galaxy Next Door,
I’m the Villainess, so I’m Taming the Final Boss,
The World is Still Beautiful,
Wise Man’s Grandchild
Honourable Mentions:
Duke of Death and his Maid,
Recovery of an MMO Junkie,
The Saint’s Magic Power is Omnipotent,
Love After World Domination,
Psychic Princess,
Etc.
tonikawa is the best slice of life romance
but look out for is twist
Sep 24, 2023 12:39 AM
#27
Lesjer_kun_
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Piromysl said:
@Lesjer_kun_
It was released actually one season AFTER Dress Up Darling, which is why people somehow drew comparison between the two, while in fact those shows are absolutely nothing alike.
Actually i don't consider a month of difference much so i always thought it was released the same season 😂
Sep 26, 2023 7:14 PM
#28
catboy420420
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I've finished manga and there's almost no romance in it as well. On the same level as the anime.
Oct 9, 2023 12:50 AM
#29
Jeje2020
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Not every romance needs to have a kissing scene. Secondly, wtf is that rape nonsense in your second paragraph?! There was no need to bring that up. Thirdly, you keep asking for wholesome moments. This entire anime is basically nothing but wholesome moments. And fourthly, PDA might be accepted in your part of the world, but not in Japan, or in Asia in general.
Oh, and Izumi did act like a man. Despite his bad luck, he tried to live a normal life and managed to gain friends, and a girlfriend as a result. He could have chosen to whine about it in some internet board like MAL but he didn't lol.
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